Friday, November 21, 2008

Born Muslim ...but DON'T want to marry a Muslim man?!?

You know how there some stories that are so far out in left field that you have a hard time believing it to be true. Then you get the facts and proof and you're floored! You feel like you've heard it all! That's me. I tell I have see it all. This is how it goes, I met this South African/ American (a little confusing but you gained citizenship) sister, Soumaya, at a function. It was funny how we didn't know one another but somehow ended sitting at a table with all the other brown and black non Arabs. So she was a striking sister. Well dressed, I mean Islamically sophisticated in a nice jilbab, matching hijab and stilletos. We began to make small talk and she told she was expecting her first child. I congratulated her and she went on to tell me that she been trying for six years Mashallah and this was the best feeling to be pregnant. She was beaming and said that her husband was more excited than her. He was 49 and this would be his first child. After the evening was over she gave me her number and invited me to come over. She wanted to meet my son and have an opportunity to play with the baby.

I went by to see her week later and Mashallah her home was absolutely gorgeous. We sat on the pation drinking mango smoothies and watching my son play in the grass. Ever now and again, Soumaya would mention her husband, Marc. I thought it was odd that she called him Marc. Most of the reverts that I knew back in the States always changed their name. Not always legally but still they gave themselves a Muslim name to use in the community. Although, I know theres always exceptions. Soumaya said her parents were going to come from her child's birth and she most happy that her dad would enshallah call the adhan in the baby's ear. I know its neccessary, but I didn't mention it to her. For many its cultural anyway. But what sparked my interest again was why would her dad do it and not her husband? So I asked and she replied very plainly that Marc, her husband, was not Muslim.

I think I looked away and scratched my head in order to gain a little composure. I have never met a Muslima married to a non Muslim. I did speak up about it to her, in the most non confrontation way I knew how to. She didn't take offence. She said she always knew she would never marry a Muslim even as a young child growing up in South Africa. She said she loved her father but he'd never been a good man to her mother and her brothers were the same. I think that was the saddest part of my day. I felt horrible because I felt the exact opposite. I have great Muslim father but my husband can neve measure up to him. I WISHED I had a husband more like my Muslim father and I pray sooner or later Allah allows me to have one. But if not, I think I'd have to agree with Soumaya...I don't want another Muslim man .....like the one I have. I rather be divored and single.

Now on to you....Muslimas who were born Muslim, Muslimas who reverted, Muslimas from the East and West, how do you honestly feel about Muslim men? Is there were no limitations on who we could marry, would a Muslim man be your first choice?

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

As salaam alaikum
well I have heard this before.I can definitely see where she is coming from.Alot of muslim marriages I see are dysfunctional and unhealthy, but for the life of me I can not understand why that is. I just came out of an abusive, unhealthy marriage to a salafi muslim brother.I can't say if i would ever marry a non-muslim but i am staying away from the salafi types.I find that they are mean, mysoginist, overbearing, disrespectful,extreme, players who run from their responsibility. Im sorry but this has been my experience with them

Anonymous said...

As Salaamu Alaikum:

I think this is a difficult topic because the same line of thinking draws a lot women and men for that matter, away from the foundations of Islaam. This is quickly becoming a real issue as all of us are faced with issues that we cannot deal with. When many of us seek help, it is non-existent.

This issue of Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men is happening a lot. I have even heard of Muslim women having non-Muslim boyfriends. However that works. But the same could be said for women who used to cover but don't any longer. Or men who used to have a beard but how now shaved it. It is clear that something has happened to change their out look and of course it hasn't been positive.

Just like the sister in your story,she had many bad experiences with Muslim men. So she would deduct that all of them are that way. I would steer away from those type of sweeping generalizations because there are always exceptions to the rules. But what I do know is that a lot of what has been happening in this Ummah around the world will not make us stronger in later generations if we don't start practicing our religion correctly. I know it isn't that cut and dry but we gotta start somewhere.

Anonymous said...

ASA,

I want to say honestly what I feel but it is way to harsh........just that I can understand where the sister iscoming from...

Anonymous said...

musleema..is everything ok? u said in your earlier post that yur going through a fitna and then in this entry, u said u dont want a muslim husband like the one u have.
i hope everything is alrite?

Anonymous said...

Salaam...
I was not born a Muslimah. I reverted to Islam 2 years ago. I am 26. If I have not found a Muslim husband by the time I am 30, then I will marry a Kaffir. I want to have children and be a mother. No muslim man would marry me past 30. So we shall see what happens. I'd rather marry a muslim, but as I said, if I do not find one in the next 4 years, then I will marry a non muslim. Is it wrong? Yes. But sometimes we have to do wrong things for survival. Will I ever leave Islam? No. I will be a muslim til I die. But i may not marry one if I can't find him.

Anonymous said...

PS: Some women have had bad experiences with Muslim men. In my case, I have had bad experiences and been traumatized by non Muslim men. The Muslim men I have met (the ones that took Islam seriously anyhow) were actually 10,000 times nicer and way cooler, and much more respectful. Too bad I did not have the chance to marry any of them. All well.

Dunia's Stranger said...

Wow. It just may be that this sister is an analogy: perhaps nothing more can be deduced from her story.

It happens - we can all find strange anomalies.

May Allah guide her Husband to Islam.

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Unknown said...

Girl, I have to bite my tounge on this one but I can say I aint mad at the sister.

No it is not right but I can understand the logic behind it.

Anonymous said...

Salam Aleikoum Sisters;
Well I am a brother.My ex wife left me for no convincing reason.I've been nothing but a very good husband to her,I provided for her,I took her out for dinner every weekend even when I can barely afford it,I put her needs before mine, I found her in deep financial problems,I took her out of it, I've never intentionally made her upset, I tried to be her best friend and her husband I gave her my love and myself.But apparently that wasn't enough, she was never satisfied and always wanting something else.Finally she said it clearly: "you know, you've been nothing but good to me, but I don't think I can live with you any more!I always look at other men and think I was compromising when I married you, now I came to the decision that I need a divorce". I don't claim to be the best man on earth, but I know I am not a compromise, I figured a woman like her doesn't deserve a man like me , especially when I think about her previous marriage, which was a failure and ended in a very violent way. Now, is it fair for me to say I'll never marry a Muslim woman again?I've seen countless brothers who had very bad marriages, some of them were at fault, but a lot of them were not.If you think a non-muslim man is better than a muslim one you're mistaking , think about your kids, what kind of religion they will have if their father is not muslim? Think about your religion when your husband is not muslim.Muslim men are not perfect, but there is a wisdom behind forbidding marrying non muslims, I hope you all won't learn that wisdom the hard way.

Sacrifice4Allah said...

As Salaamu 'alaikum,

Nice blog. Good post. In answer to your question, i would never consider marrying a non-Muslim even if i was desperate to get married!

You will find good and bad people in every religion. We as an Ummah need to be setting a good example to the rest of mankind and follow the Shari'ah in the way we deal with each other in matrimony.

In marrying a non-Muslim, a Muslimah in fact has sold her religion. For Allah says in Surah Baqarah verse 221:

"And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikun till they believe (in Allah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free Mushrik (idolater etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikun) invite you to the Fire, but Allah invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember."

If it has not been written for me to marry in this world then with patience inshaAllah i will endure this and hope for a reward in Akhirah from Ar Rahman.

wa Salaamu 'alaikum!

Anonymous said...

what is wrong with you ppl? why is having a husband so important that you are willing to sacrifice your religion for it?

As muslims, you do know that a muslim woman can not marry a non-muslim man. If she does, her marriage is not valid therefore whatever she does with him falls under the haram category (zina).

Unknown said...

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah,
It really is very sad that the sister feels this way about Muslim men. But the saddest part of it all is that it is not a choice: marrying a non-Muslim man is not an option for Muslim women. Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-Muslim men. However she feels about Muslim men, is it not better that she makes dua that Allah should grant her a good muslim man?
"...And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikun till they believe (in Allah alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik, even though he pleases you..." [Qur'an Surah Al-Baqarah: 221]

Undeniably, there are unpleasant Muslim men but there are very good ones out there too. We just pray to meet the right one and be patient till we find him. Until I started university, I had never met a good Muslim man within my age bracket that I would want to marry; I sometimes thought I would never marry for that reason. But it never occurred to me to consider non-Muslims....ever. I simply thought I would never marry. Now, in uni, I've met many practising brothers who will, inshaAllah, make great husbands to whoever they marry.

I do not wish to judge this sister nor any other who have the same views; I only ask that Allah guide us all to the decisions that are best for our deen.

Anonymous said...

Salam Aleikoum;
Sisters I am a good brother desperate to get married, I am practicing, good looking, have a nice job, everything you want in a husband, please email me:
moor92@gmail.com.
I am not joking.
Oh I forgot I live in Minnesota.
Salam.

Anonymous said...

.... if a muslim woman marries a kafir it is fornication and your children will be bastards!!!!!!!!! children of fornication......it is haram .....

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon[polytheists] till they believe (in Allaah Alone)”

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

“O you who believe! When believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them; Allaah knows best as to their Faith, then if you ascertain that they are true believers send them not back to the disbelievers. They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them”

[al-Mutahanah 60:10].

The fact that she was forced into that does not justify her giving in and surrendering to this marriage. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience to the Creator.”

This marriage is regarded as invalid, and intercourse with him is zina (fornication, adultery). End quote.

Al-Muntaqa min Fataawa al-Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (3/174)......

Anonymous said...

My Son is going out with a muslim girl, he says he is going to bring up the children as muslims if they get married, much to disapproval. Her parents found out my son was non muslim so therefore they told her to leave home if she continued the relationship. She now lives in my home her parents don't know. She wants the partial muslim ways with a western lifestyle. Many of her cousins are the same. I hope my son leaves her as I do not believe my son should comprimise so much when in our eyes she doen't practice any of it, it is just to please her family. She tells us that she could not marry a muslim man because she does not want anyone to control her life, but she is trying to control my son's life. I hope my son comes to his senses and leaves her.

Anonymous said...

I would never allow my son to marry someone like either. A friend of a friend who is a non-muslim had to get cirmunsized before he married a muslim girl. why was it OK to have sex with him prior that he was and he had to get the snip before her family put the pressure on. What is wrong with these non-muslim men! Don't change for anyone.

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Anonymous said...

I think there are good and bad men and women in every race and every religion. But i don't see why a Muslim cant marry a non Muslim as long as they be leave in God/Allah which in my mind is the same God that Christian,Jews,Muslims be leave in we just praise him(GOD) differently and have a few different profits.

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